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UFC 83: Serra vs St. Pierre 2
Date: |
April 19, 2008 |
Venue: |
Cell Bentre, Montreal Canada |
Broadcast: |
Pay-Per-View |
Main Card
Matt Serra vs. Georges St. Pierre
Rich Franklin vs. Travis Lutter
Nate Quarry vs. Kalib Starnes
Michael Bisping vs. Charles McCarthy
Mac Danzig vs. Mark Bocek
Under Card
Jason MacDonald vs. Joe Doerksen
Sam Stout vs. Rich Clementi
Kuniyoshi Hironaka vs. Jonathan Goulet
Alan Belcher vs. Jason Day
Cain Velasquez vs. Brad Morris
Ed Herman vs. Demian Maia
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UFC 83 Pre-Fight Interview With Greg Jackson
In Depth Interview With UFC President Dana White
ESPN Getting To Know Georges St. Pierre
Pre UFC 83 interview with Mac Danzig
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In The Gym With GSP and Serra
Interview Travis Lutter: Not Making The Same Mistakes
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February 25th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
bisping is goin to kick some ass
February 27th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Just to tell you that the fight between St-Pierre and Serra
is at the Bell Center, not the cell bentre.
Go Georges!!!!
March 2nd, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Im not really in love with this card, obviously i am fucking pysched for GSP/ Serra 2 (GSP is going to dominate) but other than that I only care about Lutter/ Frankling to see if Lutter can win convincingly and maybe give Anderson Silva a challenge on the second go around. Nate quarry is fightin a scrub, Bisping’s middleweight debut is semi-important and Mac Danzing/ Marc Bocek should be allright
March 6th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
im big on matt serra i hope he wins but all and all i do not like this card
March 6th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
i agree this card does not look that good other than serra vs gsp witch could be a blow out,but you never know just cause theres not the big names does not mean some of these fights won’t be great.
March 12th, 2008 at 11:34 am
SERRA VS GSP 2 WILL NOT BE ANYTHING LIKE THE FIRST TIME THEY FOUGHT!!! GSP TOOK SERRA LIGHTLY AND BELIEVED THE HYPE THAT HE HAD NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT HE WOULD WIN EASY WHICH WE ALL SAW WASNT THE CASE AND SERRA KO”ED GSP!!! HONESTLY THOUGH BEFORE THAT KNOCKOUT SERRA REALLY NEVER DOMINATED ANY BIG NAME FIGHTERS NOT TRYNA TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM SERRA THE MAN IS A GOOD FIGHTER AND HE IS THE CHAMP FOR NOW BUT GSP WONT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE AND HE WILL DOMINATE THIS FIGHT FOR AS LONG AS THE FIGHT LAST THEN GSP WILL DEFEND THE TITLE AGAINST JON FITCH AND WHOOP HIS BUT AND EVERYBODY ELSE IN THAT DIVISION UNTIL THE UFC SETS UP THE REMATCH BETWEEN GSP VS BJ PENN AND THATS WHEN GSP WILL LOSE THE BELT !!! NOW HOWS ABOUT THAT PREDICTION FELLOWS
March 12th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
i agree with all of that hawaii but i don’t see penn jumping up to fight GSP any time soon. i think both will defend for a while until they clear the top fighters in their division.
they only thing that pisses me off is how people are starting to hate on serra and boo’d him in the last ufc. i don’t get how someone can go from being loved to hated by fans so quickly. it happened to diego sanchez too…then when diego dropped 2 in a row people started liking him again. i want GSP to win but i’m glad serra got to hold that title.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
GSP in 3, minutes not rounds. Lutter has no chance, and it is getting to the point that I want to change the channel so I dont have to watch Bisping NEVER FINISH A FIGHT, I hope he gets blugeoned do death so that no one will ever have to suffer the MMA hell of having to watch one of his boring ass fights, maybe we can get him to bulk up and fight Tim Sylvia at UFC 88: SUICIDE TO VIEWERS
March 12th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
GSP is a fantastic fighter but seeing the first serra fight he nneds ta learn to get hit hard and not lose his balance however he is a fantastic athleete and i think will beat matt serra by TKO or KO he deserves to win and serra deserves to be hung.
its hard to see a weakness with GSP i think he needs to hit him with leg kicks from a distance then finish with a takedown and ground & pound or a rear naked choke.
a good fight to see would be
1.GSP vs anderson silva
2.GSP vs henderson
3.GSP vs diego sanchez
4.GSP vs ryo chonan
i think GSP would win all obviously some would need weight adjustment but nothing impossible!
March 17th, 2008 at 10:31 am
mma doggy gsp needs to beat serra first i agree that a sanchez or chonan fight would be no problem for gsp but as far as henderson or silva i don’t think he could beat those guys.
March 18th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
honestly GSP and anderson silva could go down, every1 has heard silva would go up in weight to fight rampage, but thats 20 pounds, he cud cut 15 a lot easier, and gsp and silva would be an insane fight. the best athlete and the best striker and the two most well rounded fighters in the octagon today
March 19th, 2008 at 6:23 am
GSP is a first class fighter… but I don’t think he’d last a round against Silva at WW. GSP has all the skills, but Anderson Silva is a Huge MW… he could cut to WW, but he would be too big and strong for GSP…
I was sooo disapointed in Dan Henderson’s performance against Silva… Dan will be the man to take Silva’s title, once he beats Franklin & Marquardt.. either that or Silva goes up to LHW and gets KO’ed by a Liddell or a Jackson…
GSP would be better sticking at WW… if he beats serra - no way should he move up to MW for Silva - that’s suicide
March 23rd, 2008 at 5:51 pm
I have to agree with DanP, GSP is a great fighter and he will beat Serra unless Serra tries to put the fight off another six months. HOWEVER I really dont think he would be able to go with silva longer than maybe two rounds which seems to be that magical number when silva opponents go to sleep.
March 23rd, 2008 at 6:10 pm
GSP looks an okay size for welterweight, but no way shold he go up to middleweight. gsp is only 5′10, while anderson silva is around 6′2… not to mention that silva has crazy long arms, even for a middleweight. so for gsp to move up to fight silva would be chaos. the fight will be at a good pace, but silva’s striking is just too superior for everybody right now, including chuck lidell. what could happen thogh it silva moving up to light heavy and competing there.
March 25th, 2008 at 6:52 am
I agree that the logical choise for silva is to move up. It would seem for him to go down would be much harder and I honestly think he would have no problem fighting light heavyweight, the major dilemma there is that the division is stacked and if he lost he would have to fight 4 maybe 5 fights to get a shot at the title again and that could take 2 years, they really need to pick up the pace on scheduling this stuff, so presonally I dont think he should go up or down, why not stay where he is and be go down in history as the greatest fighter in your weightclass, possibly the world EVER. that would sound sweet on your tomb stone.
March 25th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
i think this fight card is decent. there are three good fights i think: gsp vs serra, michael bisping, and demian maia. i think serra will win again because his jiu jitsu is sick, and his boxing is better than gsp’s….maybe not his over all striking but he is just as athletic he has more punching power, same takedown defense, it should be a good fight. then michael bispings fight should be good because he relized he sucks and is not a good fighter so he moved down a weight class. then damian maia has very good jiu jitsu and should win his fight hopefully by submission….and rich franklin, when was his last exciting fight….idk when he got beat by silva the first or second time
March 25th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
dans loss to silva was a hoax…dan was winning the fight and got caught no biggy, anderson is over rated, same with wanderlei’s loss to chuck wanderlei tried to beat chuck at his own game
March 25th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
silva is not going to move up….and his striking isnt the best out there…..ricardo almeida cought beat silva, and the ufc doesnt have all the best fighters in the world….dont forget about the ifl….former pride fighters, and k-1
March 25th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
i agree with pat, and gsp would kill anderson silva and their striking is very similar. gsp would keep the distance and through mad kicks and silva would be able to get close to him and loose by dicision
March 26th, 2008 at 8:47 am
Sorry Matt GSP is cleary the best welterweight and should knock out SERRA quickly no later than the 2nd round very similar to GSP vs HUGHES 2. But ANDERSON SILVA please!!! SILVA will retire on top he just beat Dan Henderson and it wasn’t even close. GSP is light heavy weight who cuts like 40 pounds to fight smaller guys and get knocked out by SERRA a (true 155 guy) had a hard time standing with BJ PENN (155 guy) SILVA has come into the UFC and stops everyone all who have never been stopped or knocked out until the foutht him he had the best thai clinch in the business ask R. Franklin and Dan Henderson and a black belt in Jujitsu ask LUTTER. The only one I see doing him any kind of damage is Bisbing coming down to 185 after he kills this McCarthy loser who only is know for gettin put on other guy’s highlight reels. Did you see him crumble from David Loliseau’s spinning back kick.
March 26th, 2008 at 9:24 am
achilles i agree with everything you said intell you said bisbing could do damage to silva, no way.dan had the best shot at beating him and dan would kill bisbing.i don’t think bisbing could beat any of the top 5 m.w.’s. the only m.w.’s out there left for him to beat are lindland and shamrock and i don’t think they would win either.
March 26th, 2008 at 10:28 am
You are probably right about BISBING but there is almost no one else in the ufc left to fight I don’t think GSP is ready FRANK SHAMROCK could make it interesting but he is in ELITEXC. Who else is there YUSHIN OKAMI? Silva knocked him out while laying flat on his back. There is nothing worse than having an unstopable champ like Silva nand no one lout there good eough to fight him the good news is that anybody else that the UFC has will make for a good highlight reel victim.
March 26th, 2008 at 10:46 am
I have to agree that this division needs something because enevitably it is going to come down to Franklin probably getting a third shot because lets face it hes the second best fighter in his class, by alot. having said that there are alot of young guys that want to give it a shot. I would like to see an improved chris leben get a shot, not saying he would beat silva but i think he deserves a sot to redeem himself for the ass whoopin he took at the hands of silva. Okami has proven that he will get in the ring and bring it, i will give him that, he is definitely not scared to get in there and give it his all and as a fan you have to applaud that. Okami will be no better opponent than franklin, and in my opinion even if silva dos eventually lose, hes just gonna get a rematch, i mean seriously are you gonna mke him train for two months just to kill someone, all it comes down to guys is that no fighter has even been this far any away the best in his class nor may we ever see it again in my eyes Silva is an MMA god.
March 26th, 2008 at 10:52 am
Pat, I have to disagree, for the most part other than Fihlo and Fedor I think that the UFC pretty much has a stranglehold on the worlds best fighters, I am not paying 50 bucks to watch Kimbo slice beat some loser they found cleaning toilets at a rest area in Kentucky. So far the only pride guy that is doing much with their opportunity is Rampage. Hendersen has lost not one but two pride belts in consecutive fights, Rua needs to show me something he got beat by forrest and i dont think forrest is got a chance in the fight, hope he wins but realistically no. Cro Cop, where the hell did he go. Fedor hasn’t won a fight that mattered in two years. A pride guy I want to see is Jeff Monson, I love watching him fight. Not saying the UFC is the greatest thing ever, its just that right now I am not seeing much else I am willing to put up the cash to watch.
March 26th, 2008 at 10:55 am
Best fighter on the planet of course. Future HALL of FAMER definitely but we can’t call him GOD. The Natural middleweights and welterweights who are big enough to move up like GSP DIESEL RIGGS won’t make it out of the 1st round against this guy. Hope fully like some of the 205 guys who aren’t excatly at the top of the totem poll but are still contenders come down. The ones who have great stand up THIAGO SILVA for example another CHUTE BOX fighter undefeated but is not a 205 guy who really weighs 240 a week before the fight.
March 26th, 2008 at 11:01 am
I can agree, I love thiago silva, that guy will be a champion at some point in his career, he really showed me something getting in the ring with an animal like houston and beat him at his own game, knocked him out. Not saying houston is a even good fighter but anyone on here wants to deny me the fact that there arent too many people who are just NASTY with the knees and fists ask Jardine, I think someone in the upper deck foudn his mouth piece.
March 26th, 2008 at 11:23 am
steveo what about big nog the h.w. champ a.silva mw champ(maybe not just a pride fighter but was not ufc) and even dan, he lost 2 but it was to rampage and silva and i would still put him #2 in the m.w. division and 2 or 3 in the lhw devision.the ufc is the deepest in talent but there is alot more than fihlo and fedor out there there is alot of top talent that is not in the ufc.
March 26th, 2008 at 11:28 am
also monson is more of a ufc fighter, i think he fought in pride once and was brought over by the ufc for that fight and shogun had a torn acl its hard to train or fight with one and he still gave forrest a good fight and is one of the best lhw out there he destroyed rampage in there fight.
March 26th, 2008 at 11:33 am
Yeah all the so called “Top Fighters” wound up going to the UFC in the last 3 years. Anderson and Rampage proved there worth everyone else kind if just blended in I’ll pay to see KIMBO fight FEDOR though. I would have to call him the best of ther terrible heavy division but it would be better if he stopped CRO COP and NOGUEIRA not decisions
March 26th, 2008 at 11:42 am
ROY is right about SHOGUN but RAMPAGE fired his entire training staff since then an has trippled his thai boxing let’s see if ther is ever a rematch of that one. The only person I want to see filgt SNOWMAN MONSON is BROCK LESNAR to see who is really the STRONGREST guy in the UFC.
STEVEO is right THIAGO silva is a future champ i thought alexander was gonna kill him after what he did to ALLESSIO SAKARA but THIAGO knocked HOUSTON back to training camp he would be a great 185 like FRANKLIN was SILVA vs. SILVA that would be a great fight.
March 26th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
i agree rampage has gotten alot better i would love to see him rematch shogun and w.silva.
March 27th, 2008 at 6:13 am
Kimbo fighitng Fedor would be sweet but I think everyone would realize just how human both of these guys are. It would be Kimbos first fight he didnt have won before it even started. Fedor would be getting in the ring with someone that would dare him to try and knock him out. ROY, big nogeuro is a good fighter but I just dont see the whole elite strker thing, to me he seems like more of a frank mir type guy, I just dont know ow legit he can be to me as the hvy weight champ knowing fedor is still out there and has beatn nog like 3 or 4 times, just hard for me to justify him as a legit champ especially since the heavyweight division is a JOKE right now.
March 28th, 2008 at 7:58 am
i agree with Steveo on that Kimbo would get his ass kicked by Fedor….i dont think that fedor will get beat for the rest of his career and that you cant say that someone is the best because they have a belt…Randy and Fedor are better in my opinion than Nogiuera even though nogiuera can take a hell of a beating…….
KIMBO SLICE vs. BROCK LESNAR?….what are peoples comments on that?
March 28th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Of course LESNAR and KIMBO need to go at it LESNAR’’s only weekness was exploited by MIR but if LESNAR’S opponent is not a good submission or BJJ fighter than LESNAR’s ground and pound will win. Not even COULTURE or COLEMAN has wrestling stregnth like this guy he wouldn’t stand with KIMBO (like any anyone should be dumb enough to try) but his ground and pound is to much for anyone unless they can coutner with a submission.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Now FEDOR like LESNAR can beat KIMBO on the ground but standing KIMBO wins simple. The question is how good is his takedown defense.
March 30th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
You guys give way too much credit to Kimbo, In a stronger Organization he would be way undermatched against the likes of Nogiuera or Arlovski even Mir, he couldnt beat any of those 3, he knocked out Tank, Okay when was the last time that guy won a fight? I wanna see Kimbo against a strong competetor but not world class, Kimbo has had no real test. At least not good enough for a shot at fedor.
March 30th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
true that ric..ppl think kimbo is a god but hes a high C rank fighter i mean maybe down the road he will be very god but he just started and they are iving him easy fights to make him something and i do believe he can become something but i think all ufc heavy weight fighters could win vs kimbo
March 31st, 2008 at 9:16 am
That is why KIMBO VS LESNAR makes sense to unproven guys with a lot of hype. Tank did knock out CABBAGE like 3 months ago though cabbage has only been knoeck out really once before that Against SILVA his corner threw in the towel and against ARLOVSKI he was injured during the fight
March 31st, 2008 at 9:59 am
kimbo slice got his shot because of his youtube videos and him bare knuckle fighting everyone and beating their asses…but i agree with everyone in that he hasnt been truely tested yet and after watching the Tank vs. Kimbo fight Kimbo looks like he has a disregard for the rules by kinda pushing the referee and by punching Tank in the back of the head repeatedly
March 31st, 2008 at 10:01 am
im going to have to disagree on what achilles was saying about Lesnar having stronger wrestling than Coleman….Lesnar is a collegiate national champion BUT Coleman is an Olypmic wrestler so if anyone is going to have problems with someone elses wrestling it is going to be Lesnar
March 31st, 2008 at 11:43 am
Rumor is that they are putting Kimbo against James Thompson. That is a great matchup for Kimbo because Thompson looks like a mean mofo, he’s big and ripped. But best of all he has a glass chin. The guy is known for getting one punched.
March 31st, 2008 at 11:55 am
james thompson always bull rushes his opponent.
March 31st, 2008 at 12:48 pm
ERIK you are right about COLEMAN being a olympic wrestler but LESNAR is really like 300 pounds normally and has to cut weight to make 265 isane as that sounds, at COLEMAN’S age I don’t think his experience will win out compared to LESNAR ridiculous stregnth.
March 31st, 2008 at 7:26 pm
See they give guys to Kimbo that have glass chins and have old worn out careers, I’m anxious to see Kimbo fight someone whose in their prime, KIMBO WOULD GET OWNED IN THE UFC. Straight up.
April 2nd, 2008 at 12:43 pm
Well i dont know about owned. There are plenty of guys tht fight in the UFC that he could get in there and beat simpy because there are 20 guys in the UFC that fight just like him. Hey Im big and I am going to punch you until I knock you out and when we go to the ground its gonna be the most boring thing ever because neither of us know whats going on. Realistically he will get killed by your top flight guys and i think even second tier guys like Jeff Monson and Mir just because if they get him on the ground hes gonna get twisted like a pretzel. And watch my boy houston kick james irvins ass tonight!!!
April 2nd, 2008 at 12:58 pm
As a heavyweight Kimbo is equipped to give anyone a good fight right now. The majority of HW fights are fought on the feet and Kimbo seems to have at least a good stand up game. Tank said he hit Kimbo clean and claims Kimbo has a good chin…I can see that. He has a big head and neck so that absorbs some impact right there. I think Kimbo’s next two fights will be tailor made but after that they should throw him a much bigger challenge.
April 4th, 2008 at 11:09 am
MOREY is 100% right. I guy with that big a head and that thick of a kneck not to include the 5 inches of beard cushioning his jaw is gonna be a stand up challange for anyone his loss will come on the ground. HVYWT’s like MONSON and MIR aren’t 2nd level opponents just no one wants to fight them because submission fighters @ that size are hard to beat. And those who so fight them just JAB and RUN from them the entire time i put NOGUEIRA right up there with those guys.
April 4th, 2008 at 11:23 am
yeah achilles, i think your right about the beard. it’s like kimbo is wearing some padding on his face.
April 4th, 2008 at 11:37 am
In traditional boxing beards that thick are illegal. I know this is MMA but if they are gonna use similar scoring systems in get sanctions in all the same states SOME of the same rules should apply. Like the amount of GAUZE you put under your gloves. TOO much grease to slip punches and make grappling difficult
April 5th, 2008 at 7:03 am
I like this fight card. I like both GSP and serra, so whoever wins, I’ll be happy. Serra does have some impressive jiu jitsu though that most people don’t see because they are bandwagon fans and haven’t watched that long. I also think the bisbing fight will be good, but I think he can take it. Franklin definately has a challenge ahead of him with Lutter. And I think Danzig can finish this fight. I don’t like hime much, but he is a great fighter with a good amount of experience.
April 7th, 2008 at 9:44 am
STEVEO is a dumbass who knows nothing about UFC according to the comment he made on March 12.
April 7th, 2008 at 9:46 am
I agree with Ryan, according to the comment he made on April 5.
April 7th, 2008 at 10:00 am
Wow Jon what insight, did you have a chance to use the internet at recess. I read again what I wrote and I don’t see what isnt very far from the truth unless of course your a huge Tim Slyvia or Matt Serra fan which makes sense due to the fact that you seem to think on a 5th grade level. If anyone honestly thinks that Serra is going to win this fight let alone let it go the distance I just don’t think its going to happen. i didn’t think Serra was going to beat Hughes, who got DESTROYED by GSP. Or you must be a Micheal Bisping fan, the only thing entertaining about this guy is his accent, Immensely (sorry if that word is too big), Here we go, BY FAR the most overrated fighter in the UFC. Sorry if I hurt your feelings and please don’t send your dad to beat my dad up.
April 7th, 2008 at 10:32 am
Also Jon, I don’t know everything about the UFC but like many of the other posters on this site I am not a posser MMA fan because I sit at home and watch the ultimate fighter every week, I have actually been to see several UFC events and I also train with some of my friends that are fighting in some of the amateur organizations here in Iowa. One of my friends was getting ready to make his WEC debut before he got deployed to Iraq. So I watch MMA not just the UFC. You keep sitting at home watching your Tank Abbott Highlight Video and keep telling everyone else what they do and do not know. And from what I have seen just stop wasting our time by posting because you dont seem to be able to have an inteligent debate, there are plenty of people who have differing opinions on this website but they can do it without having to insult and attack people and there opinions.
April 8th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
i like both georges and matt…i really dont care who wins…i noticed that ever since he got knocked out against serra he’s been taking the fight to the ground instead of wanting to stand…serra is hard to finish so i dont see him getting ground and pounded to a stoppage…i really dont wanna make a call cuz last time i said st-pierre like we all did and look what happened…lightning can strike twice if st-pierre dont come focused
April 9th, 2008 at 9:07 am
BRYAN you are right that GSP has to be carefull but HUGHES beat him fair in an instant by arm bar when everyone thought he had the jujitsu edge in the fight. Then of course as we all know GSP KO’d and summitted him in the 2 rematches. For young fighters w/ a lot of talent it usually takes a loss for them to refocus themselves and to take every fight seriously. SERRA has a little bit of a class jaw and gets hit standing consistently if he comes after SERRA like he did HUGHES in the 2nd fight this one won’t last long.
April 9th, 2008 at 9:14 am
FELLAS there is no need to argue here, this is only a forum now if you guys were gonna get into a cage against each other in there near future the insults would be all good there is nothing wrong w/ disagreeing. SYLVIA’s last uh… 3 or 4 fights did suck they were slow and he did not show the agression he used to show a few years ago. Now I have seen all of BISBING’s fights since his last fight in the UK against that bald guy w/ the GOLD TEETH and all of the TUF fights and his UFC fights he does go after it from what I can see but the LHW division is full of GREAT fighters so he should be better @ 205. Either way both of you are right on 1 subject or the other no reason for beefing each other unless you’re actually gonna fight. I don’t think too many guys will disagree w/ that.
April 15th, 2008 at 10:14 am
I wasn’t “beefing” i was just making someone aware that they were acting like a child. And all I am saying about Bisping is that he is a smaller Tim Sylvia (not finishing) which in the grand scheme of things sucks because we all pay good money to watch a fight, I can go watch a high school wrestling meet if I want to be bored.
April 18th, 2008 at 8:01 am
it is going to be pretty interesting to see 22,000 people cheering for the same person….at first i thought that GSP was going to dominate Serra but after learning more about Serra its really hard to say who is going to win…these guys have some really bad blood for each other if you watched the countdown yesterday Serra called St. Pierre a frenchy and St. Pierre said that the only reason he signed on to fight Matt Serra was because he thought it was going to be an easy fight
April 18th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
Hey Dana … I want to see Fiodor on the ring soon….
April 20th, 2008 at 7:56 am
f@$k serra. hes a nobody ,gsp DOMINATED. as for lutter hahahahahhahahahahahahahhahah I quote ” I’LL NEVER LOSE TO ANDERSON SILVA AGAIN”…. HAHAHAHAHHA youll never get the chance to fight him again…. hahahahahhahahahahhaha … if silva cuts weight he’ll take the title if he raises hell take that title.( rampage couldnt finish dan in 5 rounds and anderson executed him in 2. do the math.)
April 21st, 2008 at 8:11 am
WOW, that was a tough showing by Serra. Why did he even get in the ring. I bet his ribs feel awesome today. I dont think GSP even got hit. all you Serra lovers out there…. WHAT A JOKE. Lutter was outclassed as well, I thought he had franklin with that Arm bar but he got out and then poured it on. Franklin is still the second best fighter in his weight class, unfortunately he cant come close to being the best again. I want to see Wanderlei drop down and fight Anderson, I think that silva vs. sliva would be agood fight since Wandi is a small lght hvy anyway. Starnes is a joke, why did he even get in the ring, was he scared?
April 21st, 2008 at 11:52 am
In response to Achilles. It’s clear you give GSP respect as a fighter as he is the best welterweight out there but its also clear that you don’t really like him, so don’t get carried away with some of the things you write. GSP is by no means a light heavyweight that cuts 40 pounds for fights. He walks around at 190 and more like 185 when training for a fight so at most he cuts 20 pounds. He’s just one of those guys that is perfectly suited for his weight class. I’m a GSP fan, but he would have no chance at 185 against a Silva, Hendo, or Franklin (Franklin is another guy perfectly suited to his weight class, cutting 20-25 lbs to fight at 185). GSP could maybe fight a Chris Leben however the problem with GSP is that his greatest strength is his wrestling (he could easily compete in the olympics and could have had the chance of making Canadian national team - if it wouldn’t have hindered his UFC career) which he uses to wear down his opponents as well as set up GnP and submissions. Wrestling becomes much less effective when you move up in a weight class and are fighting bigger opponents narrowing the strength gap. Serra and Hughes both proved that GSP can be beaten so there is no need to move up. Anderson Silva on the other hand is unbeatable at 185 so I wouldn’t mind seeing him move up to get a more competitive bout, however what’s in it for him? Title bouts bring in more money for both fighter and UFC. It makes more sense to convince someone in the next higher weight class to move down.
(By the way - when a fighter is already dominant in a weight class, they should never move down as some have suggested on this board). I’m glad Bisping moved down, he was a tool at 205 and looked decently effective at 185. Hendo-Franklin would be a good fight.