The pit bull is ready, with the biggest fight of his career ahead of him at UFC 100, Thiago Alves is looking to training to over come Georges St. Pierre’s strengths.
i soooooo want Alves to kill him.
Thiago has got one the most important tools CONFIDENCE thats what he will need to break GSP's will
I couldn't agree with you more Mike. I want Alves to KO GSP out cold and stiff. That would be awesome. Alves is the biggest and strongest opponent that GSP has faced and if Thiago can stop GSP's take downs and keep it standing. Maybe, Alves can land a good one and put him to sleep. We all know GSP doesn't have the greatest chin and doesn't like to get hit. (tapping out to punches against Serra)
Thiago definitely has the power to knock him out but i think it's funny how people keep saying GSP has a weak chin. If I remember correctly, your chin is on the front of your face and Serra hit him behind the ear. Mir, Florian, and other fighters said that it was unfortunate that he got hit toward the back of the head. Fighters tap all the time not to have a limb broken. If your equilibrium is off and you know you can't recover, why not tap so you don't get knocked out unconcious and take unnecessary punishment. Refs get blasted by fans All the time for letting a fight go to long and not protecting the fighter. Who better to know a fighter has taken enough punishment and can't recover than the fighter himself?
Tapping from having one of your limbs destroyed is different from tapping out from strikes. You can wake up and recover from being KO'd but having to takes months off to recover from having a limb broke is different. And yes, I do believe GSP is afraid to get hit since being KO'd by Serra.
Thanks atleast Zack understands that GSP is gun shy. believe me GSP is quicker than alves on his feet but he wont use that approach
Exactly, he's been gun shy ever since that fight with Serra. He'll do the same with Alves and pretend that he wants to stand and then take it down to the ground soon as possible to avoid getting punched in stand up. GSP is scared to get hit.
Love it when he pawned Twinkle toe!
I guess years from now as fighters who took a lot of punishment to the head retire and get old, we'll see if there is any long term damage. I can't blame GSP for tapping to strikes. He couldn't recover. So why take unnecessary punches to the head when you know you will have many more fights and get punched to the head many more times? I wouldn't want to risk having long term damage once I was retired because I got punched in the head too many times.
I guess Forrest griffin doesn't like getting punched either. He tapped to Rashad due to strikes but nobody says anything about that.
I think Forrest and GSP were smart for what they did. Look at all the boxers who took one too many punches to the head. Tapping due to strikes doesn't mean you are afraid of getting hit anymore than tapping to a submission means you're afraid of getting sub'd.
In the end, whether tapping due to strikes or to a submission, it's smart. It keeps the fighter healthy. Again, I'm not saying tapping after getting punched a couple of times is smart. Tapping after receiving lots of punishment and knowing you can't recover is smart.
I'm just saying since that fight with Serra, GSP has been scared of being hit and getting KO'd.
i dont think gsp is really "scared" hes just being intelligent. his wrestling is far superior to anyone elses and its a lot safer for him to take people down and pound them out. its not like hes matt hughes and thats all he does. he still mixes it up on the feet and has crazy god striking thats why his takedowns are so succesful because of his speeed. when u think ur gunna get takendown by him u get superman punchd and when u think ur gunna get punched u get hih kicked or takendown its a perfect gameplan for anyone.
But lets face it i dont care how good your chin is if you get caught at the right spot at the right time with huge power your going down. even joe roagan said anybody can be knocked out. So it was just bad timing for GSP against Serra. it could have happened to anyone even the best of the best
Bobby Lashly vs Don Frye in Septemeber
I think GSP realizes that he can get KO'd in any fight. Thats why he's been gun shy and wanting to take it to the ground, because he fears that happening again.
the ko changed gsp's gameplan. it would for anyone. he didn't take serra that serious though but he's taking thiago serious.
i don't think gsp is going to bang from the inside like parisyan did. he is going to keep his distance and land some strikes until he feels an opening for a takedown.
the reason he got caught was because he underestimated Matt serra and made a mistake. Thats why he is a much better fighter since that lost. I still believe that GSP can knock out alves on his feet because GSP is more technical and quicker. He just needs to cover up at the right time
GSP probably could KO Alves, but he won't. He'll pretend to want to stand and then look to take Thiago down. Just like his last opponents BJ, Fitch and Serra.
Greg Jackson said that we will see 5 different versions of GSP in his fight against alves. Realy interesting to see a super GSP!!!
i'm putting up some cash on gsp so i really hope he doesn't try to bang with alves. by bang i mean trade punches and get in close. because alves has lights out power.
GSP, second round victory via RNC!
In a 5 rounder I think Alves is going to KO St. Pierre at some point.
I don't think GSP is "Scared" look how he dominated Fitch with the stand up and ground game … Fitch was considered the guy to beat GSP…right!!! Fitch also tko'd Alves in the 2nd round, alves got rocked and in trouble against a no-namer Derrick Noble, so alves has a "suspect" chin also. i think the deeper the fight gets alves has less of a chance. i don't think he can handle GSP's wrestling.
quit being judemental. Styles make fights. Alves has evovled so much since his losses. ELBOWZ since your comparing alves to derrick noble which was so long ago. let me compare Shogun to Machida. How about if i said shogun had no chance because of his performance against a 46 year old mark coleman and a washed up overrated Chuck lidell?? and these fights were very recent not 3 years ago
JAY….I'm saying there is nothing to back up the statments that Alves will KO GSP. i say if Alves can get rocked by a 4th teir fighter and tko'd by a fighter (fitch) that GSP man-handled, then he's in for some trouble.
How is that be "judgemental"? looks like your a GSP fan too Jay, and just wait Shogun has the Tools!!!!
Your right ELBOWS Alves has no chance at all to rock GSP. End of topic.
Alves does have a chance to rock or even KO, GSP and i hope he does. GSP is gay.
And Chuck might be washed up now, but he's not overrated. Chuck is the greatest Light Heavyweight champion of all time.
GSP IN THE 3,tko FOR THE WIN
I was teasing ELBOWZ because he thinks GSP is invincible. Chuck beat all of his opponents because they were Wrestlers and Grapplers. Tito ortiz twice (wrestler),
Randy couture twice (wrestler). Bablu twice (grappler Jiu jit su) Jeremy horn (grappler) What happens when Chuck faces a real striker and well rounded opponent. He gets knocked out. Rampage, Shogun, rashad. HELL he even coudn't beat Jardine. SO your saying that Chuck Lidell is the best of all time. Do you think he could beat the opponents that knocked him out i his prime.
Chuck's has faced real strikers and well rounded opponenets. He KO'd a tall, great kick boxer, Alistair Overeem in Pride and Guy Mezger. He's also beaten Vitor Belfort, Wanderlei, Vernon White, Randleman and Amar Suloev and there all good strikers and well rounded opponents.
I do think Chuck could beat Jardine, Shogun and Evans in his prime. Hell, in the Evans fight he was winning til he got caught. Back in the day Chuck had a iron chin. Guy Mezger hit Chuck with a bomb, pretty much the same as Rashad did and Chuck popped right back up and KO'd Mezger shortly after.
Rampage is a bad match up for Chuck. Fights are all about match ups. Some fighters just match up bad with other fighters.
Also those names you mentioned that Chuck KO'd(Couture, Babalu, Horn and Ortiz) they are all pretty damn good all around fighters.
I agree some are bad match ups but he wasnt the best though. Dana made him the poster boy just like Matt hughes. Oh boy Matt Huges was cocky he was talking shit about GSP and him Chuck were both clowning on toher fighters. I'm glad Matt and Chuck got what they deserved for talkin shit.
Matt and Chuck are mine and other peoples all time favorite fighters. Hughes record speaks for itself, a spectacular (44-7) and Chuck's record was a great (20-3) before losing his last 4 of 5 fights on the downslide of his career. Chuck hasn't talked any crap to anyone besides Tito's dumbass and Matt hasn't talked any shit to anyone besides GSP, who is gay, anyway. Everyone Hughes has talked shit about, talks shit about him, first. Like Serra, Trigg and BJ. They are two of the best MMA fighters of all time.
I'm sorry but Chuck didn't beat any of those guys via stand up…. Wandy was clearly beating him till Chuck decided it was time to take him down (and let him get back up again in secs)
Actually I think your invincible Jay!!!!!
Mike, Chuck did beat all those guys(Overeem, Randleman, Mezger and Vernon White) by KO and the others he beat in the stand up.
Wandy wasn't winning the stand up, Chuck bout KO'd him 2 or 3 times in that fight in the stand up. Wandy never hurt Chuck as much as Chuck hurt him. What fight were you watchin?
That fight was on the ground for about a total of about 30 sec. in that entire fight and Chuck won a unanimous decision. How can you say Wandy was winning? Wandy was never ahead in that fight.
Wandy never hurt Chuck? lol good as ko'd him 4 times.
1 of thosse "Ko's" from Chuck Wandy was playing with him cos he wanted Chuck to rush him, and as Chuck did that he was rocked.
no no no
it wasn't a cause of it being on the ground long it was a cause of Chuck just using takedowns to get points.
(UFC judging is shit like that)
Chuck would have won that fight without those couple of takedowns. He controlled the octogon and had Wandy backing up and against the cage the whole fight.
And yes, Chuck did hurt Wandy bad a few times in that fight with a spinning backfist and a combo of punches that DID just about KO Wandy.
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