Lube Gate Scandal: BJ Penn Files Complaint With The NSAC, Wants Rematch With GSP

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BJ Penn has officially sent a letter to the Nevada State Athletic Commission requesting an investigation into whether Georges St. Pierre’s corner man Phil Nurse intentionally lubed his fighters back during the UFC 94 superfight last Saturday.

The letter does not constitute a formal request for an investigation by the NSAC. He will have 10 days to request a formal investigation.

Here is part of the letter sent to the NSAC:

“In order for Mr. Penn (or any other licensed fighter of the Nevada Athletic Commission) to properly executive Brazilian jiu jitsu or the many other grappling techniques which are an essential part of MMA, it is necessary that an environment exists without any illegally applied lubricants, oils or other substances that cause or result in slippery surfaces on the combatants”

“The first round, one of the inspectors that was on the outside of the cage came over to me and said it looked to him that when the cornerman, who I think in that case was Phil Nurse, put the Vaseline on Georges’ face then rubbed his shoulders — which you see the guys rubbing the other guy’s shoulders to help him out — he didn’t wipe off his hands between doing that,” Kizer said. “I said, ‘Well, I’m going to watch very closely after this round.’

Keith Kizer the executive director of the NSAC witnessed the lubing incident during the rounds at UFC 94, had this to say on what transpired:

Kizer said he then witnessed one cornermen put Vaseline on Georges’ face, which is allowed, but that he then illegally put his hands on the fighter’s back “to do the breathing thing they always do …. Tony Liano and I immediately yelled at him, and I don’t think he heard us because of the noise … So I actually went into the octagon, and I said, ‘Take your hand off of his back. What are you doing?’ We wiped it down. We made sure it was wiped down after the third round as well. This was after the second when I was in there. I was very upset. I don’t know if they were doing it intentionally or not. Either way, they shouldn’t have done it.” [mmajunkie]

According to the letter sent to the NSAC, BJ Penn might be seeking a rematch with GSP:

“All Mr. Penn wanted to have is a fair and just bout and he continues to seek a fair and just encounter against Georges St-Pierre.”

The wording suggests that Penn wants to get back in the Octagon with St. Pierre for what would be a third meeting between the pair. [FightersOnly]

Comments

  1. The only way to find out if GSP would have won that match "anyway" would be to have a rematch, which I oppose. GSP came in with a 20 pound weight advantage, which is huge.

    While I agree that GSP did not have to cheat to win, it makes no difference. He cheated, and he won.

  2. Dane he could shit on a childs face and i would still love them? wtf r u talking about. U sound like a fucking queer. I never said the nsac should or shouldnt investigate the matter but that dumbasses like U r making it out to be big plan in gsps matches. If it comes out that he is doing this in an atempt to have an advantage then his corner should get in trouble but come on calling gsp a cheater? Also Dane why the hell would u bring Fedor into the conversation. Ya if Fedor said GSP greases i would be all over gsp calling him a piece of shit?? God ur such a fucking dipshit. Again why the fuck would u think of someone shitting on a childs face? That coment gots fucked up childhood writin all over it. Thanks for reminding me why i thought u were fucking pathetic.

  3. The shitting on the childs face was kind of wierd, but I gotta go with Dane on this one. Maybe GSP wasn't even aware of it, but it was still happening in his corner. And how can you possibly tell how much vaseline is on his hand?

  4. king-hydro says:

    The only way Vasaline could be any kind of factor in that ass whooping is if GSP had tomatoe cans full of it in his hands while he was systamaticly beatting down Penn. Take the loss like a man

  5. This is pathetic, and he calls himself a “world champion” ?????

    Come on BJ, if you cannot accept that you got your ass kicked by a better fighter, maybe it is time to reconsider your career…think about playing curling or play cards.

    Geeee !!! what a BABY.

  6. Some of you just don't get it. It doesn't matter who got his ass kicked. The issue is that GSP cheated.

    So, Penn is a crybaby because GSP cheated?

    So, Penn is pathetic because GSP cheated?

    GSP DID cheat. AND, he won. Does that make PENN a scumbag????

    I really don't think some here had a very good upbringing. There IS such a thing as "fair play".

  7. Bob you gotta be pretty fucking stupid to make a comment like that like it's a matter of fact. He only touched his back and it was rubbed off with a towel before the round started. If it was a fact GSP cheated the fight would not count as a win for GSP. He doesn't need to cheat So watch the tape and stop making stupid fucking comments.

  8. Bob seriously if he was wiped down like u say they would have stopped it and DQ'd gsp. He didnt cheat. Maybe he got some vaseline on him from his corner but if u listen to Jacksons camp they all are upset about being accused of cheating and I really dontthink anyone would try and cheat with cameras on them from 100 different angles. I mean here is a camera on each corner every time they sit down between rounds. I just really want this to be done with b/c it is ridiculous. Brandon Vera fought Jardine and he didnt have any problems with vaseline so I guess the conspiracy that all of jackson fighters do it lol. Im so over this topic.

  9. Digger, you are an idiot. If you look at the video, you will see that Nurse didn't just touch Penn's back, he rubbed it all over. Did you see the wiping attempt? That took of hardly anything.

    The video is there for everyone to see. Chuck Lidell saw it, the NSAC saw it, and Dana White saw it…. Strange that you didn't. Maybe you are blind? Even blind people would be able to figure that one out.

  10. Steve,

    Look at the video.

    Chuck Lidell, a fighter saw it, and the wipe down was next to frivolous.

    Should GSP been disqualified? Perhaps, but IF I was in charge, it would have been a "no contest".

    The decision by the Nevada State Athletic Commission will shut a lot of mouths here, but there were a LOT of people who saw it. It will be awful difficult to deny that GSP's corner cheated.

  11. Bob, I'm an idiot???? you might want to look at what 95% of the people think and even people registered on Penn's own site say this is bullshit they see that it didn't effect the out come, Penn never even got a chance to dominate the fight and get GSP in a position where if he had been greased he got out of it. Penn got his clocked cleaned and he and a few people like you refuse to admit that's what happened. Deal with it and move on.

  12. Damn all yinz gotta move on….it'll be aight!!!

  13. Porsche930_Pilot says:

    Man, Penn is losing it. Now claiming Florian sent him an email saying GSP was greasing a claim which he adamantly denies. Seems like one of those shots to his melon knocked something loose.

  14. Digger, you are an idiot. So, many people here don't think that GSP cheated, but Chuck Lidell did, and so did a few who were actually there. The video shows it.

    The opinion here, is there was no cheating? Or is it that Penn complained about it? Penn has lost before and never complained or never made any excuses for his other losses.

    After the decision is made by the NSAC is made, we shall see if there was any cheating or not. As I said, the decision will shut a lot of mouths, and my bet is it will shut yours.

    The penalty for GSP if guilty of cheating will depend on how valuable he is to MMA. My bet is the penalty will not be all that severe because of the fact that he is valuable.

  15. Yeah Bob your an idiot…..for 1, I'm sure he didn't tell the dude to lube him up on purpose….why would he? He was obviously in way better shape than Penn….Penn was fuckin gased after the 1st! GSP in my opinion is a way better athlete and regardless of what happened deserved to win. And for 2, if he was ridiculously found guilty of this, I'm sure not a goddamn thing would happen. He would still be champion and your mouth would finally be shut. How bout you go give BJ a bj and learn to swallow….

  16. J-Furm!!, I would call you an idiot, but at least an idiot has a brain. Again, let's see what the NSAC has to say before we listen to your hole.

    Sincerely,

    Your IDOL,

    Bob

  17. Forget him Bob, J-furm is a sicko he dosn't know what the f he is talking about the other day he tried to get all gay on me, now he is talking about giving bj a bj, thats all he is into.

  18. Moose,

    J-Furm!! is really brainless. Again, it is best to take the decison that the NSAC makes, and it really doesn't look good for GSP or his corner.

    I am a fan of neither, but I did see the between round activity in GSP's corner, and the attempted wipedown. That combined with the comments made by the people who were actually there makes this scandal a very bad one for MMA.

  19. Bob , so everybody's an idiot or a fool or brainless. See a pattern forming here. So what do you think about this bullshit story Penn is pedaling?. You think Penn would of went on with the fight without mentioning that he's been warned that GSP is using Vaseline to grease down. Let's here what you think about that, see if you can answer without name calling like a 5 year old because I don't think you can do it.

  20. Digger, I really don't know if you are ignorant or just blind, but what "story" are you trying to sell here? That GSP or his corner did not cheat?

    Penn now has a record of 13 wins, 5 losses, and one draw. IF you can add, that comes up to 19 matches. Remember, he lost FOUR fights prior to the "Lubegate" match, ONE of those matches was against GSP, where he lost on a split decison. Penn never complained, or made any excuses for those 4 losses. AND, his complaint on THIS one is very legit. The video shows it, Chuck Lidell saw it and pointed it out, the officials tried to wipe GSP's back, and TOOK AWAY their Vasoline. Now, are you saying that BJ PENN is making all of that up? Look at the video please??????

    Again, perhaps we should wait for the NSAC to decide on this, but I will give anyone odds that at least SOMEBODY in GSP's corner that night will be punished for the CHEATING.

    Please pay attention. Chuck Lidell saw it, and reported it.

    Matt Serra claims that GSP was slippery in their second match, and Matt Serra KNOCKED OUT GSP in their first match. Matt Hughs also sid GSP was slippery in their match. So, Penn is trying to sell us some bullshit????? Go soak your head!

    Bob

  21. Bob yea I didn't think you could it. This is the last post I going to waste on a little suck like yourself. Matt Serra and Matt Huges two more guys who got their asses handed to them by GSP and these fights were for the belt, you think either of these guys wouldn't of complained if they thought this when GSP just took the belt from both of them. If anybody should soak their head it should be you. Like I said that's my last post to a punk like you.

  22. Digger, It wasn't ME who called anyone "fucking stupid" to begin with. If you can't take it, don't try to dish it out.

    Now, I am glad you will not be responding to this, because as I said, the NSAC will shut your hole for good when the decision comes out anyway. Did you know that Matt Serra KO'd GSP?????

    I don't see how you come to your conclusions. So many people saw what happened, and some who were there reacted to it.

    Perhaps your mommy and daddy didn't teach you anything about fair play. Too bad.

    You should go to somebody's kiddies corner instead of trying to communicate with us adults here.

    Your IDOL,

    Uncle Bob

  23. Let's see now….

    Prespiration on skin is more slippery than vasoline on skin.

    In a boxing ring, Vasoline is applied to the fighter's face in small amounts, and at the end of the fight, they are covered with Vasoline.

    Although Chuck Lidell saw it and reported it, and the NSAC took the Vasoline away from GSP's corner, and they wiped his back. GSP and his corner didn't cheat.

    BJ Penn is a crybaby because he complained that GSP was slippery, and cheated by having Vasoline applied to his back and shoulders.

    In spite of the CHEATING, it was a "fair fight" because GSP would have won anyway.

    Anyone who thinks that GSP cheated is f-ing stupid!

    I think I got it! LOL!!!!!

    Bob

  24. I kind of think you all are ridiculous i.e. Bob, Digger, J-Furm. If you go back and read the original article, the NSAC was the FIRST to make the claim that they were lubing. Penn is saying in interviews that he flat out got his ass kicked. Watch the video where Stitch comments about the possibility of the lubing. Where the fuck is the arguement? IT IS UNDER INVESTIGATION for a reason. Yes, GSP probably would have won without it. The fact is, it happened and if they are found guilty of "cheating" it will taint the image of this win. And anyone who thinks sweat is more slippery than vaseline, seriously? If that's the case, I'm gonna market human sweat.

  25. Ryan, that is the point I was trying to make in my last post. The NSAC will investigate determine what Chuck Lidell saw and reported, the reason for GSP's back and shoulders being wiped, and the reason they took the Vasoline from GSP's corner.

    The decision from the NSAC is going to shut quite a few mouths here, and I will be very surprised if they say there was no cheating.

    If they determine that there was cheating, then that taints GSP's victories over Matt Hughs and Matt Serra especially, but it really taints ALL of his victories.

    Ryan, you are correct. We ARE ridiculous. Let's wait for the official decisions before we call anyone a crybaby or a sour loser.

    Bob

  26. Porsche930_Pilot says:

    Yea I just watched that interview on ESPN with BJ saying he did indeed get his ass kicked. As far as this vaseline thing goes we'll have to wait and see but I wouldn't say if it came back saying that GSP's corner used to much that that would tarnish any past wins because if it wasn't brought up at the time (and you can be sure it would of been especially when a belt is at stake) then it would just be Serra and or Hughes just saying it to cause shit.

  27. In their first encounter, Serra knocked out GSP. In their second, it was GSP who won, but Serra said GSP was slippery in that fight.

    I think GSP improved quite a bit between his loss to Serra and present. With Hughs, his strength is his wrestling ability. That is GSP's strenght also. IF GSP was slippery against Hughs, that would be a huge advantage.

    If the decision goes heavily against GSP, other losers may complain just to get on the band wagon.

    GSP is important to MMA, but if it is determined that he cheated, he will lose a LOT of that importance. I think it will be deemed that GSP cheated in the Penn fight. Anyway, we shall see.

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